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Worship, Warfare, and the Kingdom: An Interview With Jeremy Riddle

The Past, Present, & Future of Worship

There is much warfare over worship these days. Never before have we had a situation where one can become famous for leading worship. This is our reality, and it can be good or bad depending on the heart of the worshipper. In this interview, I have a conversation with Jeremy Riddle. Jeremy and I share a common history with the Vineyard movement, and we continue to look backwards and forwards for what God has done and is continuing to do.

This was a fun interview for me, and I really felt the presence of God on our conversation. It’s good to remember where we’ve come from in light of where we want to go.

What is true revival? How can we stay pure in our hearts when we become well-known? How do we pastor a move of God so that it sustains and continues to honor God?

These are big questions. They are important questions. John Wimber said, “More is caught than taught.” My prayer is that the Holy Spirit will continue to move in all of us, to catch what He’s doing, to catch His heart.

Action Point: I invite you to comment below about your own experience and understanding of what defines pure worship. What defines revival. Perhaps tell us about your favorite experience in worship. What concerns you about modern worship?

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Randy Clark photographRandy is the founder and President of Global Awakening and author of books on healing, impartation, and revival history. He spends his time writing, traveling, speaking at events, and hanging out with his children and grandkids.
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    Rhonda Pooley · 17 days ago
    Am 74, been in the Lord 50 years, and I just love (feel so blessed!)to be part of anointed worship that flows today, as opposed to mere song services of my youth, but the aspect that does concern me is the emphasis on overly loud instrumentals. The sound balance with the voices - and hence the lyrics - is skewed. It tends to make spectators, not participants, of congregational voices. And all too often the songs being written can't be sung effectively without instrumental backing. It's all about rhythm and beat, but lacking in harmonies and memorable melody. This is an observation, not a complaint! R. Pooley, Adelaide, Australia.
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    Heidi Steinrock · 22 days ago
    This is random but, Global Awakening, what kinda of lapel mics are being used in this interview? Starting interviews at my church and we need some good lapel mics! So random but so curious! Thank you!!
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    Toni Parker · 26 days ago
    After drying my eyes oh my gosh the presence of God was so powerfully in my room during watching this thankyou both this is my heart worship comes out of a laid down life for jesus but also a love for holy spirit to lead in anyway of us all preach prophesy all in our own ways but all flows out of our worship we are song writers and find these songs are coming out of our relationship and often trials that we each go through the Way of christ comes through our songs as he led us through the trial to reveal him his word and what he does we write more honestly and for him not for our audience but to reveal him to bring hope to hearers when we sense an anointing on a particular song the person that wrote it leads it because there is a sound and an anointing that they carry the rest support it l believe we are writing songs for revival in the 20th century and it's more about revealing him to his creation so they can follow Him ?
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    Lisa Corio · 28 days ago
    Worship ministry is a CALL FROM GOD. We have too many people who are NOT Called to "His Vision". We must sing TO HIM in spirit and in Truth, and understand what that means. Stay in the Word of God and keep your heart right before God. God still delegates positions in the Body. Jesus Is Lord! Pray in the Holy Spirit. Consecrate yourself to God. Worship ministry is WHO you are, IF you are CALLED to do it. It's not that complicated. This is a neccessary conversation and not easy to talk about, but thank you for doing it. Prayers for the Body of Christ.
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    Jon James · 28 days ago
    Randy, Thank you so much for posting these interviews and blogs! This interview with Jeremy is heart changing and has so much in it in what God wants in His church! I remember when my church in its earlier years worshipped like this but we have drifted from it and I so long that we return to heart of deep worship and an atmosphere of His presence is so overwhelming!
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    Don · 29 days ago
    I think we're in a season where the Holy Spirit wants to lead the worship leader through the people themselves so their role changes from 'leader' to 'releaser' where they use the ability to discern what the Father is doing to release the people and musicians to respond to what the Holy Spirit has initiated - what could be called "congregational-led" worship. Where that is happening miracles and presence is breaking out - which I think is the invitation to true revival
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    NEEN SIDNELL · 1 months ago
    THIS IS WHAT I AM LONGING FOR! I RECALL THOSE YEARS LONG FOR FREEDOM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IN WORSHIP, MY HEART CRIES. FOR HIM
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    John Clauder · 1 months ago
    Thanks So Much Randy what a blessings My Friend Knowing You John and Bills hearts it has been the roots for ecstatic Holy Spirit Worship John Clauder
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    Kevin Johnson · 1 months ago
    The Lord just told me the other day that waiting on Him in the secret place is the highest form of worship. Waiting is Worship and worship is Warfare!
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    Misook · 1 months ago
    I grow up in the culture where emotion is despised and analytical thinking, rational mind is respected. Worship is frequently related with, perceived as emotionalism. Some of my family members, even though they are Christians for years, they hardly get out of anything from worship, regardless how powerful the worship is. I think Many who lives in industrialized county have the same opinion regarding worship. Yet I do believe God is full of emotion and many of God’s character, which only can relate with heart.

    Most of the worship songs are without pure heart and spirit, it is mere noise, even artistically no value. We can listen and still enjoy Beethoven, Mozart, without worshiping heart, because it is artistically very excellent. But most of the worship songs are without pure heart and spirit on it, it is mere noise, even artistically no attractiveness, because most of it is a few simple rhythms and keys.
    For me during most of the worship I have to try to focus on Jesus, and calm my heart to get into the worship mode. Depends who is leading the worship, sometime it takes a little longer.

    One of the powerful experience on worship I had was with Katherine scott( Allen scott’s Wife from Ireland). After a very busy and stressful day, my heart was turbulent, noisy, and busy. when I heading to our church conference, I told to my self, ‘I am not ready for this conference at all, I do not think I can get out of anything.’
    . But on the moment when I entered sanctuary My heart completely quiet down immediately and I am in the worshiping heart instantly.
    i did not try or put any effort, it was worshiping atmosphere lead by Katherine.
    I experienced The power of pure worshiping heart and worship leader’s spiritual authenticity.
    I totally agree with Jeremy. Without pure heart, it is not worship anymore. It is performance. Performing is much easier than kneel down and pray, asking for pure, thirst and hunger heart, and building up personnel history.
    We need worship leaders who can bring God’s presence to people.
    Every person who would like to lead or involved in worship should listen this video.
    This attitude is most important requirement to be a worship leader.

    thank you Jeremy and Randy.














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    Kari · 1 months ago
    God changed where I went to church to experience worship. It has to become a lifestyle. I get so many visions/pictures now during worship. There r times it becones prayer, there r times u can only make a sound (no words) n times u can't say a thing...... It prepared our hearts to hear God. The Words r very important, too many times it about feelings anymore rather than truth/the Word. We need to learn to spend hours in His presence. Half hour on Sunday isn't going to take us there!
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    Minna · 1 months ago
    True worshipers worship THE FATHER in spirit and in truth
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    Marjorie Keenan · 1 months ago
    I believe that until the church learns to embrace the full revelation of the True Gospel of Grace, revival cannot come. Revival is not about sin and repentance; revival is about the love and kindness of God. Grace is unconditional love and is not based on our behaviour, but on the finished work of Jesus on the cross. Jesus paid the punishment for sin and redeemed us from the curse of the law. We now live under the Covenant of Grace and the law has no place in this covenant. You cannot mix a covenant of sin and death and a covenant of the Spirit of Life and experience true liberty. The Bible days that where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. Liberty does not include condemnation, guilt or shame. Where there is no law, sin is not imputed. Jesus said He would remember our sins no more for His sake. He wrote new laws on on our hearts; spiritual laws of Love and Faith. Believing on His finished work is all that is required of us...Walking in His love and sharing it with others. When people have true revelation of God's UNCONDITIONAL LOVE only then will people be drawn. It is His kindness that leads to repentance (changing your mind and turning another way) and will draw many into the outstretched arms of our Heavenly Father Who loves us beyond words!

    Sin-consciousness and living by the Mosaic law only causes sin to abound; Grace will cause sin to diminish and God's love will change us from the inside out. What the world needs now is love, not judgement and condemnation.

    Praise and worship is part of our everday life as we walk in the Spirit and Truth. Jesus is the Truth and He sent the Holy Spirit of Life to comfort us and guide us in the knowledge of God. Worship is not just singing nice songs worship is letting love flow to God from your spirit, and most of all letting God's love flow into your spirit. He joys over us with singing and dancing. I love singing in tongues and singing until I enter into the throne of Grace and I can hear the angels joining me in worship. This used to happen often in the 1980's and as a result people were healed and delivered in the praise. Also the Spiritual Gifts of Holy Spirit would begin to operate in awesome power!

    God Bless!
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    Wendy · 1 months ago
    Yes and amen! Being the heart and feet of Jesus wherever you stand. Stand in His Presence....stand in His glory and all becomes yes and amen!
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    Rebecca · 1 months ago
    Real worship leaves you hungry for more of God but nourished at the same time. In contrast the other leaves you temporarily high but dry.
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    Susie Devries · 1 months ago
    Beautiful- Thank you Papa Randy. Thank you for always being so real. Love you and your precious family. My own journey to His presence was with the Vineyard. Thank you Jeremy for honoring Holy Spirit - beautiful, beautiful - pls write all the books the Lord has given you
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    Deborah · 1 months ago
    This was very poignant for me. I was at Anaheim Vineyard from 1983 to 1994, and I was the female singer on Kevin Prosh's worship team. This moved my heart and brought me to tears several times as I remembered with fondness the tangible presence of the Lord and how worship continually healed and restored and imparted all at the same time. I count it all joy and a privilege to have such a rich inheritance. Truths were deposited into me about the heart of worship that have remained part of my DNA and lifeline to Jesus. I love to see this generation walking into and embracing that same heart.
    Thank you, Randy, for your provoking questions, and you, Jeremy, for your heart and continual pursuit of His presence.
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      Joseph Cotten · 1 months ago
      I grew up on the other side of the country, in North Carolina, but I was HEAVILY influenced by the Vineyard worship of the time. People like Kevin Prosch, Brian Doerksen, David Ruis, et al (pretty much all the people Jeremy mentioned) were massive parts of my formative years with God. Then with Delirious taking off (and being loosely connected with Vineyard), I felt like I was taking off with them. Randy actually mentions their song “Come Like You Promise” in the interview. The purity and passion that was in those ‘80s and ‘90s Vineyard churches continues to push forward into what God’s doing now. It’s quite inspiring!

      Thank you, Deborah, for staying true to the call. It’s folks like you that continue to inspire the rest of us!
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    Dale Youngs · 1 months ago
    I grew up in a denominational church. I first heard Bob Fitts at a YWAM Mission fest in Texas in the mid 1980s - at which time God called me to the ministry - and I was swept up to heaven as we worshiped. I'm in my 60s now. I went to the Send in Orlando this year, and worshiping under Jeremy's leadership did quite a number on me - and he reminded me of Bob Fitts. So it's way cool that Bob was an influence on Jeremy; I can hear it, see it. In 6 decades of living, that time of worship in Orlando was the closest to heaven I've ever been taken. I wanted to stay in that stadium forever because GOD CAME CLOSE! Thank you, Jeremy, for stewarding His presence.
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    Mary · 1 months ago
    Love the interview. You can feel the presence of God during the conversation. Wow! Yes, we need to protect the purity of our worship. Remove the agendas that oppose the move of God.
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    Jacob Goin · 1 months ago
    Refiner's Fire, my heart's one desire, is to be holy, set apart for You Lord. For whatever the Lord Jesus wants to do with me, I can surrender my plans. I enjoyed listening to this interview. Thank you for sharing it!